[ROW] Call This Thursday at 2 pm Eastern

Thu Apr 21 16:42:03 CDT 2022

Hi Mike

Many FL cities and counties limit excavation for fiber/conduit in the same area of the ROW to no more frequently than once every 2-5 years, the time frame varies based on jurisdiction.  There are several policy reasons to support this:  avoids constant disruption to the same ROW, less wear and tear on roads, less disruption to same residents/businesses, etc.   Yes, the industry argued that this benefits the first entity in the ROW, but in practice, it has not prevented parties installing fiber/conduit from finding alternative routes.

This policy is also consistent with the FL Dept. of Transportation’s Utility Accommodation Manual, which has a similar policy for state ROW that limits re-excavation, and per state statute, is the governing bible for local regulations.

Gary

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From: ROW <row-bounces at lists.natoa.org> On Behalf Of Watza, Michael J.
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Here is a 2017 micro-trenching study conducted in an Alberta, Can. parking lot which offers some interesting insights.

My concerns include:

1.    The impact of these cuts as further weaknesses to our roads already subjected to harsh weather driven freeze-thaw and heaving cycles.

2.    Northern communities also tend to replace our roads more frequently than warmer climates for those same reasons. So what happens when a road is replaced or heavily re-worked every 20 years? Does the fiber have to be replaced when the life of the fiber should be virtually unlimited? Who funds that replacement?

3.    Because the micro-trench is very narrow by definition, it seems likely that the quantity of strands in such a project may be substantially fewer than a traditional installation which could leave a fiber project inadequate to meet future needs?

4.    Ownership of the Fiber. Assuming we don’t want multiple cuts into our roads, how do we address subsequent competitors seeking access?

5.    Etc.

A community here in SE Michigan is doing a microtrenching project as we speak, so I may have more direct experience in the next couple years.

Mike

From: ROW [mailto:row-bounces at lists.natoa.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Werner
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Thanks, Alice.  Let’s hold the call for those of you who can make it.  Again, sorry for the late notice.

Nancy

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I’d offer these three items:

  *   Portland new proposed ROW Code
     *   If anyone from Portland is able to attend today, it would be great to hear a status update on their process to institute a new ROW Code to standardize/unify code requirements for all utilities using infrastructure in ROW.
  *   Microtrenching discussion
     *   Insights from anyone allowing use of Microtrenching for fiber deployments in ROW.
     *   Insights from those getting increasing pressure from telecoms to allow use of microtrenching in ROW
  *   FCC Second NPRM: Accelerating Wireline Broadband Deployment by Removing Barriers to Infrastructure Investment (WC Docket No. 17-84) “Resolving Pole Replacement Disputes”. Plans for comments.

Thanks,
Alice

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Hi Jodie!  Today is the day for the call.  I have been out of the office so I apologize for not getting an email out to solicit topics.  Does anyone have anything to discuss today?

Nancy

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Hi, all,
Do we have a Rights-of-Way Forum call today?
Jodie Miller
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