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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks Chong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> ROW [mailto:row-bounces@lists.natoa.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chong Liu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 22, 2022 2:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ROW@lists.natoa.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ROW] Call This Thursday at 2 pm Eastern<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Mike --<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Sorry I missed the Thursday call, too much day work. Please see attached the City of Boston joint build policy and our master lead company agreement, which answer some of your questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">1. The fiber and microtrenching must be maintained and replaced by the providers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">2. The providers must maintain the public rights of way within which the microtrenching are installed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">It may not be a good idea to use microtrenching so much since the snow plowing can easily damage the small conduits, we often advise the providers of those risk and point out the traditional
trenching, which is slower and more expensive but more durable. After microtrenching is quick and easy. I will. pay attention to trench that run normally 6-12'' from the surface, however that vary dependent upon the road condition and underground configuration.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Chong<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:51 PM Watza, Michael J. <<a href="mailto:mike.watza@kitch.com">mike.watza@kitch.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The project here had a very republican city gaga over "free". Then the installer charges for access. No price control or service standards. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Sent with BlackBerry Work (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.blackberry.com&d=DwQF-g&c=jHPlKdF3zLuO12CD8lDt5g&r=SxQ571uBPzA5hYmJRYBtbZfABj6VTBzwIzrXb1oFhAU&m=Izz9rw597l0YJ4keNgEDqt7Yol6CBj8vlReFnbDG5cC2hJjLTDzwFWESapuD0tzF&s=nziA1Qtygcg6h7sdTAUCD3Jm4RYyXLUQpwJX39BJM9c&e=" target="_blank">www.blackberry.com</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b>ROW <<a href="mailto:row-bounces@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">row-bounces@lists.natoa.org</a>> on behalf of Nancy Werner <<a href="mailto:NWerner@natoa.org" target="_blank">NWerner@natoa.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Apr 22, 2022 12:12 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:ROW@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">ROW@lists.natoa.org</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [ROW] Call This Thursday at 2 pm Eastern<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks, Mike! This is really interesting. I had not thought about your point 2 and how the shallow placement of the fiber could mean it has to be replaced when the road is replaced.
The study seems to say that even more routine surface work could impact shallow trenches. Hopefully these risks are being addressed prior to any micro-trenching so there are no issues down the road (pun intended!) when road replacement/maintenance damages
or requires reinstallation of the fiber.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> ROW <<a href="mailto:row-bounces@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">row-bounces@lists.natoa.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Watza, Michael J.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2022 3:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ROW@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">ROW@lists.natoa.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ROW] Call This Thursday at 2 pm Eastern<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facetsjournal.com_doi_10.1139_facets-2D2016-2D0043&d=DwMF-g&c=jHPlKdF3zLuO12CD8lDt5g&r=SxQ571uBPzA5hYmJRYBtbZfABj6VTBzwIzrXb1oFhAU&m=Izz9rw597l0YJ4keNgEDqt7Yol6CBj8vlReFnbDG5cC2hJjLTDzwFWESapuD0tzF&s=4Py8sqCYRXRc6Hqd4sKrrkSscR9qos6ykzNZbA-_YSQ&e=" target="_blank">https://www.facetsjournal.com/doi/10.1139/facets-2016-0043</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Here is a 2017 micro-trenching study conducted in an Alberta, Can. parking lot which offers some interesting insights.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">My concerns include:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt">The impact of these cuts as further weaknesses to our roads already subjected to harsh weather driven freeze-thaw and heaving cycles.
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt">Northern communities also tend to replace our roads more frequently than warmer climates for those same reasons. So what happens when a road is replaced or heavily re-worked every 20 years? Does the fiber have to be replaced when
the life of the fiber should be virtually unlimited? Who funds that replacement?</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#1F497D;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:14.0pt">Because the micro-trench is very narrow by definition, it seems likely that the quantity of strands in such a project may be substantially fewer than a traditional installation which could leave a fiber project inadequate to meet
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt">Ownership of the Fiber. Assuming we don’t want multiple cuts into our roads, how do we address subsequent competitors seeking access?</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:#1F497D;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:14.0pt">Etc.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">A community here in SE Michigan is doing a microtrenching project as we speak, so I may have more direct experience in the next couple
years. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D">Mike</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> ROW [<a href="mailto:row-bounces@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">mailto:row-bounces@lists.natoa.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nancy Werner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2022 12:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ROW@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">ROW@lists.natoa.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ROW] Call This Thursday at 2 pm Eastern<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks, Alice. Let’s hold the call for those of you who can make it. Again, sorry for the late notice.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Nancy
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> ROW <<a href="mailto:row-bounces@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">row-bounces@lists.natoa.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lawson, Alice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2022 11:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ROW@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">ROW@lists.natoa.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ROW] Call This Thursday at 2 pm Eastern<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’d offer these three items:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Portland new proposed ROW Code<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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If anyone from Portland is able to attend today, it would be great to hear a status update on their process to institute a new ROW Code to standardize/unify code requirements for all utilities
<span style="color:black;background:white">using infrastructure in ROW.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Microtrenching discussion<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Insights from anyone allowing use of <i>Microtrenching</i> for fiber deployments in ROW.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2">
Insights from those getting increasing pressure from telecoms to allow use of microtrenching in ROW<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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FCC Second NPRM: Accelerating Wireline Broadband Deployment by Removing Barriers to Infrastructure Investment (WC Docket No. 17-84) “<i>Resolving Pole Replacement Disputes”.
</i>Plans for<i> </i>comments.<b> </b><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> ROW <<a href="mailto:row-bounces@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">row-bounces@lists.natoa.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nancy Werner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2022 08:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ROW@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">ROW@lists.natoa.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ROW] Call This Thursday at 2 pm Eastern<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#9C6500">CAUTION: External Email</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Jodie! Today is the day for the call. I have been out of the office so I apologize for not getting an email out to solicit topics. Does anyone have anything to discuss today?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Nancy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jodie Miller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2022 11:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ROW@lists.natoa.org" target="_blank">ROW@lists.natoa.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ROW] Call This Thursday at 2 pm Eastern<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi, all,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Do we have a Rights-of-Way Forum call today?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Jodie Miller</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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